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Sound System -Sub outs?
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post Nov 22 2001, 05:02 PM
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If you really don't want to go to too much trouble, you can replace the 6x9's and you'll hear a significant difference. They're very easy to do as well. If you want to go further, the 6"'s are easy too and will make a bit of a difference. By just replacing these two things, you will have a good system that sounds clear but won't cost much. <br>A subwoofer will make a huge difference to your audio system, but if you do, you will probably start getting addicted and sacrificing all your money. That's what I did! If you get a Sub-woofer system, you also need to keep in mind that you will probably need a new head-unit - (Standard Camry unit does not have sub-out, you can rig one up though.) You will also need amplifiers$$ and if you get good subs, you will also end up wanting good sound from the front stage which equals, Expensive 6" 2-way splits and more amplifiers$$! Proceed with caution, and know when to stop. Bass Addiction is an often overlooked, but serious medical condition. I'm currently undergoing treatment now... :)
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post Nov 29 2001, 01:35 PM
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Well yes the audio community is really biased. I absolutely love JL...and will probably never go with anything else...but I am not going to knock on someone else's car, in which they have spent lots of time and $$$ on, b/c he uses MTX, or Kicker, etc. I also hate how stores will frown upon brands they dont sell...and know very well those products are quality. Oh well...it's all marketing. When it comes to Audiobahn, I see cars with their products doing awsome in shows. Their stuff is flashy...lots of chrome and "bling-bling"..lol..and yet seems to do very well. Now when it comes to L.A. Amps....I wish I could be of some help. I love their wires and had one of their Capacitors until recently....but not really sure about their amps. I had one friend using a L.Audio amp...and he seemed to like it. Just not sure to be honest. I am running AutoTek amps....which hardly anyone knows about. They are definately not cheap P.O.S.....retails for about $500 a piece....(got a great deal on them BTW!)...but I pull up to shows and alot of people ask me what are those amps. Doesnt phase me that much b/c they perform well. Well I need to get back to work...but Ill chat with you later.
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Hey...thanks for the vote of confidence. I guess I will get that 2nd sub after all and figure out which brand of amp I'm going with. I had a pair of Audiobahn tweets and they were nice. A friend of mine ordered a pair of the full range speakers for the front and back of his car and I'm waiting to see how it sounds so I can make a decision on if I'm going to go ahead and make it a complete Audiobahn speaker system.<br><br>I hear what you are saying about some dealers frowning on the stuff they don't sell. I laugh when I go to some places because they will swear that Sony or Kenwood is the best out there. I am a Pioneer man at heart, but will always believe that Alpine makes the best head units out. I am biased in the items I will use, but will NEVER push someone into using something because of MY beliefs. I tell them to go with what they think sounds and looks good to them.
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On the subject of sound ... I just got a gen 4 Camry (2001) to replace my trusty 1987 Camry - <br>On the stock CD that comes with the 2001, are there sub outs on the amp?<br><br>Sub question - what is the "weakest link" on CD system (I have the base stock CD, no changer etc)<br>is it the speakers or the CD/Amp? In other words, if I am going to replace just one thing in the sound system, what will it be? Volume is fine, clarity is a little muddy. I am thinking the front door speakers and maybe adding a powered sub. thoughts???
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On your average factory system, the weakest link will always be your speakers. Honestly, I don't know why anyone would change the rear speakers first when those are the ones furthest away from your ears. I would start from the front and go back. If you want to clear up the sound, find you a nice speaker and put it in. If it doesn't quite sound the way you like, don't be afraid to add a tweeter and mount it up so that it doesn't fire into your pant leg (that is where sound is lost on speakers that are mounted in the bottom of a door panel). Adding a tweeter up high opens the sound up. Just making that upgrade will change your sound dramatically. If you still don't like the sound, then change your rear speakers. You should always work your way up the chain. If after your speakers are upgraded and you still don't like the sound, you may want to change your head unit. You'll get much more power, and you'll also get more sound control. If the system isn't loud enough for you, then you can always add an amp to the mix. If you add an amp to the factory system, you'll have to use line out converters to change the signal from hi to low. (basically going from straight speaker wire to RCA connectors). The downside to this is that you get distortion at lower sound levels rather than if you had an aftermarket head unit with pre-amp outputs.<br><br>If you would like some great ideas on system upgrades or ideas on installations, go to www.sounddomain.com<br><br>You will see a lot of things that are just plain and you'll see even more that will have you scratchin your head. They also have a message forum that allows you to ask any questions you have on ANY subject related to car audio.<br><br>Remember one thing. When it comes to car audio, no question is too stupid. If you don't know the answer, the only way to find out is to ask.
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Sorry read another post on the subject and I agree with allmet_33. I have a 2001 Solara...and it came with the JBL factory system. The sound was good...but since I am a bit of an audio-fanatic....I wanted to replace those high-ends. Definately change the front speakers first. Luckly, my Solara came with factory components...so when I replaced the factories...I didnt have to cut a hole for the tweaters. At the moment I have only replaced the front components and added one of my old Rockford Fosgate amps to them....which has dramatically improved the SQ of the car. Basically I have utalized my Sony deck's equalizer to almost turn off the rear speakers. In a car, you really only have right and left...not right/left front/back....unless you have a receiver that has surround-sound capabilities for TVs (very expensive) Otherwise, unless you have people in the back seat all the time....you would benifit most from replacing the fronts and puting alot of power to them. <br><br>When it comes to deciding whether to bridge or not...that really depends on the amp's capabilities and the ohm rating of the subs you buy. I have 2 JL W-3 duel-voice-coil subs...and have an amp pushing each running a 4 ohm load bridged. Its kind of complicated. My speakers are rated 2 ohm....but when my amps are bridged to the DVCs...it basically runs a 4 ohm load. What you need to do is see if your amp is rated for 2 ohm stereo mode...then get 2 subs that will take that 2 ohm load. Talk to your stereo store...they can show you diagrams and such. Check out the following page for such a diagram. Its basically the booklet that came with my subs. Its very helpful and shows how to add multiple subs to one amp, or mutliple amps to multiple subs. Do remember this is a DVC sub, so its alittle different than the normal sub. <a href=http://www.jlaudio.com/subwoofers/pdfs/12W3_BDS.pdf target=new>http://www.jlaudio.com/subwoofers/pdfs/12W3_BDS.pdf</a>
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tmanana123 is putting out some very good info. I got a chance to check out your system and I am very impressed. VERY clean install. Well, now that my Camry has been taken to the graveyard, I will not get to contemplate my next install when I get my replacement Camry.
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post Nov 28 2001, 04:23 PM
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Hey Allmet_33....I am really sorry to hear about the accident. I am glad you made it out safe and sound. Well I hope the insurance company treated you well....and if you need any help on the new car...just shoot. Good luck on the search.<br><br>Toby
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Thank you...it's all good. I do believe that all things happen for a reason. The insurance company is draggin their feet, but they are paying off more than I expected since my car had 165,000 miles on it. LOL Anyway, I will be getting another Gen 3 Camry and I will be desiging a system for it in the meantime. I'm planning on adding a 2nd Audiobahn DVC 12" sub. I've got one and it hits nice and hard in a sealed box. I love it. I can only imagine how 2 will work. Whew!
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Hey AllMet....I can imagine that combination will really sound good. I am a JL man...cant say enough about JL....but guys who have Audiobahn are the same way....live and die by them...lol. They definately make a good product. Well good luck with the insurance company....and keep us informed!
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Tmanana...you are one of the first people that I've heard say anything good about Audiobahn. I've had a couple people laugh when I tell them...until they heard it. Sad thing was that I only had about 175 watts going to it. Since I didn't have the rest of the speakers amped, it evened out nicely. <br><br>I used to sell car audio equipment and I'm apalled at how some people can't respect what someone else may like. A couple of shops I've been to for advice were very biased on what they sold, so now instead of going to shops for advice, I read a lot and ask questions to people such as yourself.<br><br>Have you heard anything good or bad about Lighting Audio Amps?
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