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Nov 22 2001, 09:11 PM
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Guests Posts: 2,357 Joined: 5-May 08 Member No.: 864 Drives: Camry Location: In The Attic |
Hey <br>I was just informed that that the box I
have is the wrong kind for my car.. is there such a
thing as a wrong kind<br><br>I have 2 ten inch subs
Jensen in a Jensen box hooked up to a 500 Jensen Amp..
ummm as you can see I went with Jensen lol.. I have a
sony explode Head unit though..<br><br>thanx for the
advice on the wiring by the way I couldnt believe how
easy it was..<br>anyways my question is.. the jensen
box is that the "Wrong" type of box for a gen 4
camry..<br>also another friend told me if I take the plastic
glass off the box it will be louder because my trunk
will act as the box.. is there any truth to that???
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Nov 20 2001, 11:06 PM
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Guests Posts: 2,357 Joined: 5-May 08 Member No.: 864 Drives: Camry Location: In The Attic |
Sunskin, It's so easy, you'll kick yourself. All
the panels on the Gen 4 camry just snap on and off.
Simply lead all the wires behind the front consul, (I
led mine to the left) (In Australia, we drive on the
right.) Put the leads to the far corner and then run
underneath the plastic guards that run along the floor next
to the door. They go all the way to the rear seat
and into the boot. (Sorry - Trunk!) ;)
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Nov 21 2001, 09:00 AM
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Guests Posts: 2,357 Joined: 5-May 08 Member No.: 864 Drives: Camry Location: In The Attic |
When I had my 96 Camry (totaled in accident on
Halloween), I had a 12" sub in the trunk. Like Jimmylexus
said, I ran my power wires behind the dash to the
driver's side and then lifted the door sill panels up and
ran the wires under the carpet to the back, under the
back seat and up through the trunk carpet. I grounded
my amp to the seat belt anchors. If you are using a
quality RCA patch cable from the head unit to the amp,
the door sill may not provide the clearance you need.
What I did was run the patch cable under the center
console and where the arm rest is, I unscrewed it so I
could raise it up and slid the patch cable under the
carpeting where the hump is. It requires a little work to
get it through, but it's worth it. You should be able
to do it with a 12' patch cable and the excess you
can coil, tie off and lay under the rear
seat.<br><br>The reason for this...you want to keep your power
wires away from your patch cables to make sure you
don't get any electrical interference. Also, make sure
you use a shielded patch cable. With all the
electronics in a car...it will eliminate any other noises
filtering in to the sound system.<br><br>I may not have a
Camry now, but I do plan on getting another. I WILL BE
BACK!!! *smile*
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Nov 21 2001, 09:02 AM
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Guests Posts: 2,357 Joined: 5-May 08 Member No.: 864 Drives: Camry Location: In The Attic |
Good, your getting another Camry. YAY!
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Nov 21 2001, 09:06 AM
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Guests Posts: 2,357 Joined: 5-May 08 Member No.: 864 Drives: Camry Location: In The Attic |
Come on now...how could I consider myself a Camry
lover if I wasn't going to get another one? LOL
Besides...I had too many plans already set for the one I had
AND I am helping to start a Camry club for the
MD/DC/VA area. As soon as more info is available, it will
be posted here. If you have any suggestions as to
the best way to get things started, please leave some
posts to give some ideas. Thanks!<br><br>Anyone in the
DC Metro area that may be interested in becoming a
member...look out for details in the near future.
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Nov 22 2001, 11:31 AM
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Guests Posts: 2,357 Joined: 5-May 08 Member No.: 864 Drives: Camry Location: In The Attic |
To all of you guys that replied thank you very much
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Nov 22 2001, 09:47 PM
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Guests Posts: 2,357 Joined: 5-May 08 Member No.: 864 Drives: Camry Location: In The Attic |
I'm not an expert, just another car sound fan.
But here's what I know. (I have a gen 4 Cam
too.)<br>1. The question is not, do you have the right box
for the car, but Do you have the right box for your
subs? Your car has little to do with it. If that box is
customed to those particular subs at that particular power
rating then that will be as good as it gets. The
position matters though, I found that in my car I have my
sub firing towards the rear of the car from the front
of the trunk (This gives plenty of air space in
front of the subs), this sounds much better than firing
toward the driver (Usually in a tight space). There is
one other option however, some people with ported
boxes lead the porting tube through the shelf into the
cabin. (It can go through a 6x9 hole.)<br>2. If you take
out the perspex, you will end up with a very ordinary
sound that is hard to describe - Fluffy?! - Don't
listen to your friend, though I'm sure they mean well.
Subs need to be enclosed. Your trunk is massive by
comparison and isn't air-tight. Your trunk acts more like a
secondary box (If it's open you will notice a drop in the
cabin sound).
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Nov 22 2001, 10:13 PM
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Guests Posts: 2,357 Joined: 5-May 08 Member No.: 864 Drives: Camry Location: In The Attic |
Thanx alot man.. <br>You seem to know what your doing, I am going to take you
word rather then listen to the morons I call my friends..<br>thanx again
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Nov 22 2001, 10:29 PM
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Guests Posts: 2,357 Joined: 5-May 08 Member No.: 864 Drives: Camry Location: In The Attic |
Just to throw my 2 cents in. I have a full
Fosgate systemand when I first got it I got one the dual
bandpass boxes, which i assume the jensons come in also
just a little different design. The bass was EATEN up
by that dual bandpass box. I went to a sealed box
and it feels like I doubled my bass output. My
conclusion with the bandpass boxes are that they are one,
for competition systems that need good looks as well
are are powered with very high watt amps that make it
able to thump even with the trunk open (ie competition
situation). Or like was already said, bandpass boxes are
specifically made to be paired with a specific sub and
specific amp. I usually only see really good sounding
bandpass boxes in the average joe's car used with only one
smaller sub like an 8" or ten". Basically if you got the
watts and the need, bandpass is good but sealed gives
the average guy WAYY better bass in the cabin with
the trunk closed. Taking the plexi glass off still
leaves you with the ports open ( which will sound worse
than leaving it on) which need to be sealed if you
decided to go that route and usually it's tough to
completely seal it off and if you mess up the box is ruined
as a bandpass box. Hope this doesn't make ur
decision harder lol--hope it helps.
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Nov 23 2001, 07:59 AM
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Guests Posts: 2,357 Joined: 5-May 08 Member No.: 864 Drives: Camry Location: In The Attic |
The guys on here are right! Ryan...you made the
right change. Anytime you have an enclosed trunk, the
best box to use is a sealed box. Using a ported or
bandpass box is really a waste unless you tunnel the ports
into the cabin of your car. Otherwise, it's lost in
the trunk. A sealed box utilizes nothing but sound
waves and that's why it seems louder and rocks the car
even more. One thing to note, the way you position
your sub in the trunk can also affect the level of
bass you hear. I had mine firing at the back of the
rear seat at first and it was okay. Sounded kind of
muddy, but then I turned it around (back of the back
against back of rear seat) firing at the back of the
trunk and it seemed the level went up and the sound
cleared up more. Don't be afraid to experiment to get the
best sound for your car.
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Nov 23 2001, 09:44 AM
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Guests Posts: 2,357 Joined: 5-May 08 Member No.: 864 Drives: Camry Location: In The Attic |
Thank you very much for you help guys <br>I
really Appreciate it.. I turned the box towards the rear
and my car shakes like crazy when I turn up the bass
the quality of the sound is good too..<br><br>Umm I
have one more question.. Do you think it would be wise
to bridge my subs..?? alot of people are giving me
advice I'm not sure whos to take.. I dont know much
about sound systems I'm more into performance.. so any
information about getting the best quality out of my system
helps..<br><br>Thanx again guys.. any and all suggestions are welcome
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Nov 23 2001, 09:51 AM
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Guests Posts: 2,357 Joined: 5-May 08 Member No.: 864 Drives: Camry Location: In The Attic |
How do you currently have your subs hooked up.
I've heard of bridging amps or hooking up subs in
parallel or in series, but never heard of bridging
subs.<br><br>Do you have one amp running two subs? If so, leave
it so that you have a channel going to each sub.
Your amp won't work as hard.
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Nov 23 2001, 04:53 PM
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Guests Posts: 2,357 Joined: 5-May 08 Member No.: 864 Drives: Camry Location: In The Attic |
allmet, <br>it all depends on what kind of
amplifier you have. If you have a high current amp, you can
push your speakers MUCH harder if they can handle it.
I suggest looking on the manufacturers website and
see what the lowest ohm load you can run the amp on.
If you do have a good amplifier, you can run it down
to 2 or 1 ohms, and each time you cut the ohm load
in half, you double the wattage that goes to each
voice coil in the speakers. Now just worry about how
good your speakers are :-) <br>Good luck
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Nov 26 2001, 08:33 AM
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Guests Posts: 2,357 Joined: 5-May 08 Member No.: 864 Drives: Camry Location: In The Attic |
What you are saying is very true, but I was
giving out advice for someone that seems to just be
getting his feet wet. <br><br>The set up you are speaking
of would require someone to spend top dollar for the
components that can handle the ohm loads you are talking
about. Especially the amps.<br><br>Good advice though.
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Nov 26 2001, 10:44 PM
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Guests Posts: 2,357 Joined: 5-May 08 Member No.: 864 Drives: Camry Location: In The Attic |
Well some of the posts have been pritty much on
the money. I compete as well....and am using a sealed
enclosure setup for my 2 JL 12s. The difference is that
most bandpass/fiberglass cars compete in what they
call the "outlaw" categories....in which the mic is
allowed to be placed anywhere in the car (most of these
guys put the mic right in the port of the box). I hate
this category....think its cheating myself. Someone
can put a mic in a ported box with a 10 in sub and
hit like 170 dbs. I compete in the legal
division...in which the mic is placed on the dash of the
car....so the DBs reading you get is pritty much as fair as
it gets. Otherwise, the only other benifit of
fiberglass is for the looks. <br><br>The main difference
between sealed and ported/bandpass systems is that ported
enclosures create a more "boomy" sound, while sealed systems
are a bit tighter. I love the sound of my 2 12s...and
with over 1000 watts going to the subs...I definately
have no complaints about DBL output as well. Also,
when competing, the trunk is closed and I put down my
rear seats so the sound is going straight to the dash.
You can tell a big difference. <br><br>Take a look at
my setup if you
like:<br><a href=http://members.sounddomain.com/tmanana123
target=new>http://members.sounddomain.com/tmanana123</a>
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